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    September 23, 2010
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campaign. while the president was addressing the u.n. assembly, his new health care reform law was going into effect throughout the country. exactly at the same hour the president was speaking. republicans unveiled their pledge to america, promising to cut taxes, cut spending, and restore what they view as core american values. then back at 1,600 pennsylvania avenue, team obama is going to have to replace some major players. not just top economic adviser, larry summers, but now reportedly chief of staff rahm emanuel who could be gone in a matter of weeks to start his campaign good afternoon. thanks for being here. >> hi, chris. >> you've been on the inside a lot. you were in the carter administration, you worked for bill bradley before your stint at the white house. some people, some places are
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better at change. but this is a lot of change in the white house. three of four of the top economic folks are gone are leaving. how will this administration handle this. >> one thing that's always been true is a lot is thrown at it. and the president and his team are very well at catching it and moving the forward. as you said in your run up to this segment. if you look at today, you have the new health care reforms becoming law. six months later peace of health care becomes law. people don't have to worry about insurance companies dropping them or denying their children coverage because of preexisting conditions. this was a big part of the president's agenda.
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it kicks in today. we have the republicans seeing it as a very big point they can make to help them take over the house and senate in the fall. big insurance companies are eliminating the child only coverage. a question can be raised, how did that big loophole exist that they could just stop coverage for kids, which was a hallmark of this health care reform. so is health care reform all that it's cracked up to be? >> today is really the first day of health care reform being the law of the land. with these patient protectors becoming law. what the republicans find is once these benefits become laws as they have today, it's going to be difficult to go to the american people and say, well, guess what, we think that health insurance companies should be able to drop you again when
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you're sick. we think they should be able to drop your children and not cover them because of preexisting conditions. they should be able to cap your overall lifetime payments. i think the reality is that the republicans have run against this because it's easy to bring fear of change to people. which they are. and they should be. it's a frustrating time. the hole was dug very deep. it's going to take a while to get out of it. >> they think one way they're going to assure they take over the house and senate is certainly the house, the pledge to america today. which some people say looks like the 1994 contract with america, which as you know, was followed by them takes over congress. let me show you something president clinton said about this today when he was asked on morning joe. >> i think the democrats ought to put on one card no miranda warning five and no fewer than
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three things. bef 30 days to have an honest debate. >> whether you like what the republicans did today or not, they seem to think they have consistent talking points. president clinton seems to say that's what the democrats need to do. they need to lay out their case. they need to be consistent in their case and make their case. do you think they haven't done that? that's the implication of president clinton. he says the communication is worse than the policy or the way he put it is that the actual policy is better than the communication. >> @ clinton, who was extraordinary communicator in his own right certainly understands how to talk to the american people. listen t there are very clear choices. and what the republicans did today was to make them even clearer. the democratic party wants to protect tax cuts from middle class and working families. the republican party pledged to
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make sure they get tax cuts for the wealthiest people and add $700 trillion to the deficit. the democratic party said we want to protect the tax cuts in the stimulus. the republicans want to end the tax cuts. they want to get rid of the jobs created by the recovery act. the groan jobs. the jobs of the future. there's very clear choices. i think what the republicans did today was to make the choices very clear, very easy to describe. that's what democrats will do over the next 40 days or so. it's going to be an interesting time, chris. >> to say the least. anita dunn, good having you on. we talked about the republicans ruling out a pledge to america. they went to ha lumberyard in virginia this morning. they promised if likted they'll cut spending, cut taxes, repeal or replace the health care law
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that went into effect just today. john boehner was asked to offer specifics on how the gop would do all that and still balance the budget and cut the deficit. >> i don't have all the solutions. but i believe if we work with the american people, the american people will want to work with us to come to grips with these challenges that face our country. it's about having that adult conversation an honest, open way, that will help get us the answers to lay out the plan that will solve this problem once and for all. >> congressman bill cassidy is a physician and a republican from louisiana who was a key member of today's roll out. congressman, as you know going into this republicans thought it wasn't a good idea to do this. i didn't hear specifics from john boehner. e read through the pledge. can you tell us how specifically
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you are going to cut spending? how republicans are going to make these changes? i didn't see them in there. >> one thing we can say about the reform, the congressional budget office says that will save $54 billion over ten years. that is a specific we would implement without having an immediate impact. >> where are the changes in entitlement programs? are the mentions of the cost of war in afghanistan and iraq? >> let me start with the entitlement programs. the day after the president signed the health care bill, the co-chairman of commission of debt got on tv and said the problem with our debt is health care entitlements. thls the day after we supposedly passed a bill that took care of the issues. the first thing you do is not to make the problem worse.
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we took the saving from medicare and invested it into an entitlement program. we took medicaid and greatly expanded it. somehow we create a third entitlement to rescue the first two. the first thing you do is go back to basics and say you use the savings from programs to shore up programs, not to create a third entitlement. >> is that enough money to make a difference? don't some hard decisions have to be made about social security? don't important decisions have to be made about supporting the troops? >> clearly our decisions have to be made. i think john boehner was saying we'll make those hard decisions. but it has to be in participation with the american people. i think the american people are tired of being told from on high what they should and should not do. >> isn't that a cop-out? if you're going to say here's our pledge, don't you have to
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say, here, specifically, is what we pledge to do. don't say, american people, i know you elected us to find answers, but we're waiting for you to give us the answers. >> let me repeat what i said earlier. we had tort reform, which saves $54 billion. the second specific is we do not implement a third entitlement. the third thing is we would take the savings that will be invested in the third entitlement and instead use it to shore up the entitlements that we start with. those are pretty specific. we can build upon those for even longer term benefit. >> i'm curious about the timing. i don't mean to make light. the plan is important. and american people having the choice. i happen to be on with pat buchanan, a very well-known republican, friend to republicans. he said he would be fired as communications director if he
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decided to announce this plan at the same time the president was speaking to the united nations, that anybody could predict the news programs would take the president at the u.n. was there a misstep in getting this out to the american people? >> you're focusing on the politics and presentation of it. i'm not concerned with it. i'm not sure that's what the american people are concerned with. the american people want to know there's efforts to address the issues of concern to them. they do not feel the effort is being made. the point being, not that maybe we should have timed it better. maybe we should have had a different backdrop. i don't think the american people care about that. what the american people care about is having a choice. there's one party for more limited government and lower taxes. and i think that was the presentation that was made. frankly, it's an important presentation to make however it is presented. >> congressman bill cassidy of louisiana, you've been generous with your time, sir. thank you for joining us.
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>> thank you, chris. >> virginia will execute a woman for the first time in nearly a century. why the world is watching. then, facebook's founder is about to make the biggest donation of his life. but is there something c self-serving about the timing of this gift? plus, katy perry gets the boot from sesame street. why the show can d her segment with elmo. all that and breaking news when it happens next. ♪
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attendance is likely going to be huge on sunday at georgia's new life missionary baptist church. it may be the first time we hear
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directly from the megachurch's pastor about the sex scandal that emerged this week. in a statement today the bishop who heads up the 25,000 member church says the allegations are false. be a lawsuit accuse him of using jewelry, cars and cash to lure in three young men into sexual relationships. >> the bishop was grooming young men to be at his disposal. he finds them at 14 or 15 years of age. he starts to get a relationship with him at the primary time when a young man is searching for his identity. >> the pastor was set to appear on the the tom joyner radio show today, but bishop long didn't show up. instead, his attorney spoke on his behalf. >> let me be clear. the charges against me and new birth are false. i have devoted my life to helping others and these false allegations hurt my deeply. but my faith is strong and the truth will emerge.
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>> let's bring in the pastor of the first dallas church in dallas. thanks for being with us, pastor. you have a big church, too. what is the membership of your congregation? >> we have 13,000 members in the congregation. >> i'm not the first one to say a lot of questions have been raised about the megachurches. a lot of concerns about the pastors and lifestyles they lead. let me get your take on pitch op long and, would you have advised him to go on the tom joyner show, if he's not guilty, go on and tell what the situation is? >> well, i certainly would. the bible says the person who tries to conceal a sin will not
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prosper. we have to be clear these allegations are not proved yet. if so, they represent the grossest violation of a pastor's duet, a shepherd to take care of his flock. >> when something like this happens to a pastor, we don't know what the truth is here, but when these allegations come out, does it hurt you? does it hurt all pastors of megachurches and christian churches in general? >> i think that's right. i think it hurts all churches. i think it's a blight against christianity when this happens. i would say to the audience, if this turns out to be true, remember this, the power of the gospel is not in the messenger, it's in the message. that's where the power is. >> it depends on which study you look at, but close to 10% of christians now go to home churches. these people get together in their neighborhood in a house,
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maybe 15 or 20 people. they have service together on sunday. a motivating factor for a lot of christians is they don't like the idea of when they get money it's going for a big building, that it's going for a lavish lifestyle for a pastor. they don't like the way the pastors are living their lives. do you think something like this will feed what is clearly a growing trend across america, which is home churches? >> that's right, chris. i understand why home churches are growing, but what you're describing there is not really a church, it's a bible study. the bible gives the definition of a church. there's an authority structure in the church. there are pastors, elders and deacons. the church is not man's idea, it's god's creation. just because there are bad churches that don't have accountability, like apparently this church should have pad in place, it doesn't negate the whole idea of the church.
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it's god's idea. it's god's way of accomplishing his mission. >> thanks very much. we do appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you, chris. >> and coming up, why you may have to shell out more cash for the morning cup of joe. we have details on that. then kerry bradshaw eat your heart out. shoe help has arrived. a single store and yes, more than 5,000 different kinds of shoes. don is laughing at me because he knows i've been wearing the same pair of shoes for seven or eight years. impressive resume. thank you. you know what, tell me, what makes peter, peter ? well, i'm an avid catamaran sailor. i can my own homemade jam, apricot. and i really love my bank's raise your rate cd. i'm sorry, did you say you'd love a pay raise asap ? uh, actually, i said i love my bank's raise your rate cd. you spent 8 days lost at sea ? no, uh... you love watching your neighbors watch tv ?
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we're 78,000 people looking out for 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. words alone aren't enough. my job is to listen to the needs and frustrations of the shrimpers and fishermen, hotel or restaurant workers who lost their jobs to the spill. i'm iris cross. bp has taken full responsibility for the clean up in the gulf and that includes keeping you informed. our job is to listen and find ways to help.
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that means working with communities. restoring the jobs, tourist beaches, and businesses impacted by the spill. we've paid over $400 million in claims and set up a $20 billion independently-run claims fund to cover lost income until people impacted can get back to work. and our efforts aren't coming at tax-payer expense. i know people are wondering-- now that the well is capped, is bp gonna meet its commitments? i was born in new orleans. my family still lives here. i'm gonna be here until we make this right. it's like you slipped and hit your head in the tub. and i knew immediately when you sat down something ain't right. >> i hope i didn't offend you in any way.
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>> oh, no. i was not offended. it was so much fun. it was really -- >> good. yeah. >> it was batting practice. every one of them was a dinger. >> what a difference a year makes. actor joaquin is out of his extreme acting stint back on letterman as himself. the transformation to this the wild eyed alternate ego was part of a fake docu-movie, i'm still here. are those the same person? now to other stories we're tracking across the usa. wisconsin, a state of emergency is declared after heavy overnight rains forced 1,500 people to evacuate. schools and businesses were closed today. realtors in northern ohio are on edge after two brokers were murdered and a third robbed within the past week. two were found dead in va kantd
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homes within a day of each other. a third was accosted at gunpoint while showing an apartment. investigators made two arrests. a lot of realtors are canceling open houses. and a portland area bus driver is fired after being caught on tape reading an ebook while behind the wheel. he was tomorrow nated for posing an immediate threat to public safety. the driver's attorney says his client was not actually reading the ebook. but there's evidence, because as we said, the incident was captured earlier this month on a passenger's cell phone camera. you have to watch out. everybody can take pictures these days. and we are just hours away from virginia's first execution of a woman in nearly a century. despite international appeals, the state execution is on, dan abrams joins us a live. then a recall of popular baby formula. why the manufacturer is pulling
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this from store shelves. and katy perry is too hot for sesame street. a segment with the pop singer has been yanked before it airs.
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i'm amanda drury with your cnbc market wrap. here's a look at how stocks are doing. we're feelly soggy in the markets with the dow down by 61 points. the nasdaq on the downside by seven points as well. economisting home sales were better than expected in august. the national association of realtors says sales were up by 7.6% from july. analysts only expected a 7% rise. still, existing home sales were down 19% from a year ago. and your next starbucks drink may pinch your pocket a little more. starbucks is raising prices on labor-intensive drinks as well as packaged coffee. fear not. a regular cup is expected to stay the same. the company says rising coffee prices is to blame for the
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increase. that's it for cnbc, first in business worldwide. chris, back to you. now here's a look at your headlines this thursday. millions of containers of baby formula are being recalled because they may con feitain in parts. log onto msnbc.com for more details. a new study questions how effective breast exams are. the breast cancer death rate only dropped 10% with routine mammograms. previous studies show it closer to 25% #. the man who killed the student body president at the university of north carolina will spend the rest of his life in prison. he got a life sentence for a slew of charges, including kidnapping and car jacking with an extra ten years for using a sawed off shotgun. he shot eve carson in 2008. so all the disparaging
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remarks to rolling stone magazine that got general mcchrystal fired as commander of troops in afghanistan apparently weren't made by him. a pentagon study concludes neither mcchrystal nor anyone in the inner circle are the source of the quotes that got the general called to the white house and booted out of the military all together. "the new york times" reports the investigation may now focus on a mid-level naval officer who was also part of mcchrystal's group. a woman in virginia will be executed by lethal injection. it was a classic murder for hire case, but one that has set off international controversy. 41-year-old theresa lewis used sex and a promised cut of her stepson's life insurance to lure two gunmen into the plot to kill her husband and stepson. with the supreme court and the the governor both refusing an appeal, the stage is set for virginia's first female execution since 1912. let's go to richard lui. i think one of the things that
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has gotten this so much attention and caused so much controversy is the fact that she's a woman. >> and this is just so rare, here, chris. we take a look at the numbers. 3,200 people are on death row at the moment. less than 2% of them are women. you can see that small sliver of those cases. there's more that make this is case compelling for you. she pled guilty, as we've been talking about. but still she got the death penalty. in such cases a deal has been made normally. life in prison instead of education cushion, for instance. then there are the killers that she has hired in this case. she met them in the check-out line at walmart and then later after they shot hur husband, she ran back into the room to steal $300 from her dying husband's pantds. that's compelling. also the first woman to be executed in the united states. that was a woman in 1632 in the same state of virginia. >> 1632. okay. so although this is scheduled to
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happen after the state was denied friday, a lot of people have this apprehension. there has to be a lot written about this sociologically. culturally it just doesn't jive. richard deter from the death penalty information center explained this to me earlier. >> it is certainly true that you can't extract all the social history of gentleness and motherliness and grandmotherliness that women often project. under the law, there's no difference for her case. but, yes, people see the face of a woman and ask why are we executing her? she doesn't seem to be a danger to society? >> and also a part of this in some of the writings i look through, the topic of men on women violence was raised. executioners of women the person
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who hits the switch basically have been men and not women. that might be unsettling to some. then there's the possibility that some women on death row may not be able to afford a proper defense in one book i found, the authorry writes more than half of women on death row have evidence of being abused, but proving this is expensive. we have trial cost, investigator cost, study costs and more. public defenders are strapped. they don't have the money to employ this type of defense. so these abused women may not get the representation that they need. for context, chris, one last point, another author pointing out that going back through the 1700s, with women being executed had always been a rarity. if not a spectacle with billboards and fliers being issued. and often they were seen only by men, with a death scene being talked about like a pregame
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show. that's the latest on that, chris. thanks, richard. i want to bring in nbc news chief legal analyst dan abrams. there's no question in this case, dan, theresa lewis did it. what surprised me is she pled guilty. i'm used to let's make a deal. i'll plead guilty. in exchange i don't get the death penalty. >> a lot of times the prosecutors don't want to make a deal. they don't have to make a deal. a lot of arguments could be made for minorities as well. minorities no question are disproportionately represented on death row. if someone is white, versus someone of color, if the person of color is facing the death penalty, they'll more likely get it. that doesn't mean, though that as of right now we simply say we won't apply the death penalty. in only reason in my view that this case is getting so much attention is because it's a
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woman who is on death row. this is a crime which in any state that has the penalty would be eligible. there are some cases where prosecutors say i'm sorry. this is too heinous. we are not going to cut you a deal. >> so could it be a calculated risk that you're taking? she did it. the evidence points to the fact that she did it. so i'm really going to put my time, my effort, my heart and soul into the sentencing phase. and maybe in the sentencing phase because she's a woman i may be able to find some sympathy there and keep her off death row. >> that's what happens in many cases. part of the reason so few women are on death row is because men are charged with crimes more than women. the other reason is even when they're charged with the same crime, women tend to debt the
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death penalty less often. a lawyer may fairly say this is where our real shot is in the penalty phase. in preventing her from being executed. the most compelling argument to me was she doesn't have the mental capacity. she's effectively retarded by law. >> borderline retarded accordsing to tests taken. sfl the problem is they braulgt that up late. if they could review that later, a court could review it. one of the other defendants tested with a loreer i.q. than she. he only got life in prison. the two men twho did the shootings got life in prison. the trigger people only get life? she didn't pull a friger. why is she getting the death penalty? under law, the person who hires
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people to kill someone can be just as culpable, even more culpable than the people involved. and the prosecution made the case that she essentially convinced the guys to get involved. now there's another side to that. but this has always been a tough argument. for ahmadinejad in iran. >> he's now comparing this to this woman in iran who was stoned. for adultery. >> he says we're being hypocrite call because we're putting a woman to death and we're criticizing them for stoning a woman who has committed dault adultery. >> in one case the crime was adultery. in another case the crime was killing your husband and your son. >> and by the way, at least according to the testimony he lay there dying and she rifled his pockets for $300. there are arguments on both sides. >> there's no questions -- >> not a sympathetic act.
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>> right. i'll tell you with this exact same pattern, if it were a man, this wouldn't be getting major media attention. that may be an argument all together. but there's no question that this case is getting particular scrutiny because of gender. >> dan abrams, always great to see you. >> great to see you, chris. coming up, dramatic video of a bus suspended between two barriers. major crash there. find out where this happened and what happened to the folks inside that bus. and the tea party has shown it's a force to t to be reckoned with. next, a man behind the tea party success. he's also one of the most divisive players. that's not really my style honey. weird, i can't find it. ♪ [ female announcer ] new tide with...acti-lift technology helps remove...many dry stains as if they were fresh. hey! you found it. yeah, it must have been hiding in my closet. [ female announcer ] new tide with acti-lift.
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and the bus became squeezed between a couple of barrier walls. you can see it narrowly avoided going over the edge. partial results from last week's parliamentary elections in afghanistan are trickling in now along with allegations of election fraud. thousands of candidates ran for 249 seats. afghan officials say the final numbers won't be available until late october because of these increasing reports of irregularities. there were massive street protests and strikes across france today. an epic battle over raising the retirement age, get this, from 60 to 62. the chaos has closed schools and forpsed public transit delays around the country. the french senate is preparing to pass that very unpopular measure, following a slew of similar votes across europe. let's go to the united nations. earlier today we took president barack obama in front of the general assembly. now ahmadinejad nor the first
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time before the united nations since 2008. when he called the zionist regime of israel murders. let's now listen to mahmoud ahmadinejad. >> translator: the deterioration of world economy, climate change, and disregard for human aspirations to achieve justice and lasting peace. after about 100 years of domination, the capitalist system in existing world order are unable to provide appropriate solutions to the problems that society faces. thus their demise has arrived. therefore i shall try to examine several causes for their failure and features for an adeal order. the first cause relates to our attitudes and beliefs. as you are well aware devine profits had the mission to
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invite everyone to monotheism, to love and justice, and to showman kind the path to prosperity. they invite men to contemplation and to seek knowledge in order to better appreciate the truth and to refrain from atheism and egoism. the necessary taj of the profits is one and the same. every messenger has endorsed a messenger before him and given glad tidings who present ad more complete version of the religion in accordance with man's xmasty at the time. this trend continued until the last messenger of god who presented the perfection of an all-inclusive religion. in opposition to the call by the
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profits, the greedy stood up against, revolting against the messages. abram counted moses and the greedy countered jesus christ and mohammed. may peace be among all our profits. in the recent centuries human ethics and values have been rejected as a cause for back wardness. they were portrayed as opposing wisdom and science because the proclaimers of religion in the dark ageers of the west inflicted man with back wardness. man's disconnection from heaven
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has detached him from his true self. man with his potential to understand the secrets of the universe, his instinct to seek truth, his aspiration for justice and perfection. his quest for beauty and purity and his capacity as god has said to represent him on earth has been reduced to the materialistic world with a mission to maximize individualistic pleasures. human instinct then replaced true human nature. human beings and nations are considered rivals. and the happiness of an individual or nation is upheld at the cost of others to the point of eliminating or suppressing others, rather than developing a constructive and evolutionary method of cooperation, it was replaced by a destructive struggle for
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survival. the lust for capital and domination replaced monotheism, which is the gate to love and community. this widespread clash of the ego egoists gave way to slavery and colonialism. a large part of the world came under the domination of a few western states. tens of millions of people were taken to slavery, and tens of millions of families were shattered as a result. all the resources, the rights and the cultures of the colonized nations were plundered, lands were occupied, and people were humiliated and mass murdered. yet, nations rose up, colonialism was alienated and
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the independence of nations was recognized. thus the hope for prosperity and security was revived among nations. in the beginning of the past century beautiful motives of freedom, human rights and democracy created hopes for healing the deep wounds of the past. today, however, not only to those dreams are not realized, but memories even at times more bitter than before have been recorded in our history. as a result of the two world wars, the occupation of palestine, the korean and the vietnam wars, the iraqi war against iran, the occupation of afghanistan and iran as well as many wars in africa. hundreds of millions of people were killed, wounded or
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displaced. terrorism, elicit drug production, poverty and the social gaps have increased. cue data government in latin america committed unpres dentded crimes with the support of the west. instead of disarmorment, it expanded placing the world under a larger threat. as a result, apparently the very same old goals of colonialists and the slave masters were pursued, but this time around with a new facade. the second cause for the failure of the existing world order and capitalism has to do with the current global management and its ruling structures.
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the league of nations and after that, the united nations were established with a promise to bring about peace, security and a realizization of human rights, which in fact, meant a global management. one can analyze the system of governor by examining three events. the first is the event of 11 september 2001, which has indeed affected the entire world for almost a decade. we all that at the time, suddenly, the news of an attack on the twin towers was broadcast using numerous footages of the incident, almost all governments that mattered strongly condemned this incident, but then, a propaganda machine came into full force. it was implied that the world
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was now exposed to a huge danger, namely that of terrorism and that the only way to save the world would be to deploy forces into afghanistan. eventually, afghanistan and shortly there after, iraq war occupied. please take note. it was said that some 3,000 people were killed on september 11 for which we are all very saddened. yet, up until now in afghanistan and iraq, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed. millions wounded and displaced and it is still going on and expanding. in identifying those responsible behind the september 11 attack, there were three viewpoints. first, that a very powerful and complex terrorist group able to successfully cross all layers of the american intelligence and security carried out their attack. this is the prevalent viewpoint, which has been supported mainly
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and advocated by american statesmen. second, that some segments within the u.s. government orchestrated the attack to reverse the declining american economy and scripts on the middle east in order to save the designist regime. the majority of the american people as well as most nations and politicians around the world agree with this view. third, it was carried out by a terrorist group, but that the american government supported and took advantage of the situation apparently, this viewpoint has fewer proponents. the main evidence for this viewpoint links the incident with a few passports found in the huge volume of rubble and video of an individual who is place of domicile was unknown,
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but it was announced that he had been in ordeals with some american officials. it was also covered up and said that due to the explosion and fire, no trace of suicide attackers was found. regardless of each of these three viewpoints, there remain a few questions to be answered. first, would it not have been sensible that first, a thorough investigation should have been conducted by independent groups to conclusively identify the elements involved in the attack and then map out a rational plan to take measures against them. second, assuming the viewpoint of the american government, is it rational to launch a classic war to wi spread deployment of troop that is led to the death of hundreds of thousands of people to counter a terrorist group. third, was it not possible to
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act the way iran conducted the operations fighting the terrorist group who killed and wounded 400 innocent people in the iranian operation, no innocent person was harmed. it is proposed that the united nations set up an independent fact-finding group for the event of september 11 so that in the future, expressing views about it so that to ensure that the dif rent views about it are not banned from discussion in the future. i wish to announce here that next year, the islamic republic of iran will host a conference to study terrorism and the means to confront it. i invite officials, scholars, thinkers, researchers and research institutes of all countries to attend.
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>> mahmoud ahminedjad. those who have been assembled have walked out. the united states delegation is no longer there and many of them didn't show up. not a surprise given that last year, there was a tremendous walkout given the nature of his comments. he is however, someone to be reckoned with. a key challenge for the united states as i think it's fair to say the unpredictable leerd of a country pursuing nuclear weapons. let me go to ali in tehran for us. let me get your thoughts and what's going on now. >> it was quite an unusual statement he made. he touched on the subject before. he was saying that the u.s. was possibly involved in these attacks to launch a wide scale war in the middle east and boost our economy as we saw the u.s. delegation, british delegation walked out. israeli delegation didn't show
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up. he's trying to make headlines here again as he is in talking very, very continue verse sal subject. i thought he would be talking about the nuclear issue in israel, but on to september the 11th. >> there are people who say he is driven frankly by a thirst for publicity, that he would rather be infamous than not fams at all. >> he doesn't mind playing the villain when he comes here. he has an audience he panders to in the middle east and iran. >> thank you very much. and that's going to do it for me. we're going to keep our eye on what's happening today in front of the u.n. general assembly. "the dylan ratigan show" is up next. ] [ beeping ]
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